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. >> right. it was an election in which president obama, unprecedented for a democrat, actually ran on a platform of raising taxes. he said, i'm going to raise taxes on the top 2% and he was re-elected resoundingly with it. to what ron said, if it's only $14 trillion, what's the big deal, go ahead and let the rich pay it? that's number one. number two, the other thing that's been exposed and what's true, what's always been true about conservativism is that the core principle is the rich don't pay too much, they pay too little. when they say things like broaden the tax base, they think it's a moral hazard to have a progressive tax code. you want a flatter tax code for those with less money pay more into the system. republicans have tried to talk around that because that's anç unpopular thing to tell your tea party base, middle class people, no, we think lower income people and middle income people should pay more. but when we strip away all the rhetoric about job creators and the rest, that is the core of conservativism. rich people should not pay more. they should pay less. poorer
in 2012, in a general election with barack obama, an african-american, a democrat, and a relatively popular president, would create a different electorate than the one you saw say in 2010 or in a primary situation? >> well, i think -- as you know, every poll starts with an assumption. here is who we think is going to show up and vote. therefore, that's who we ask the question of. republicans, and not just the romney campaign but republican pollsters all across the country, guessed wrong. we didn't see the intensity that there was there for the president, particularly among young voters. we oversampled male white voters. and, you know, you add all that together, and you're going to see two, three, four-point differences. plus, the assumption always is that the incumbent is not going to pick up any votes on election day. i think this time -- >> i think that's right. bob, you're a pro. let's go through the first one. perception is about the enthusiasm level. we were watching the last election. you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obv
that they elected obama by a few percentage points, the exit polls also asked, would you like to raise taxes to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican house, which had twice voted for a real budget -- remember, the president's budget he claims he has a mandate for was put up before the house and the democrats all voted against it. in the senate, the democrats didn't want to have anything to do with it. it's a little hard to argue, he had a mandate for something the rest of his party ran away from. >> well -- >> did not run ads on those issues. >> and, of course, it was a bit more complicated than that. but to your point about the exit polls, it's true, most people said that they didn't want tax increases to solve the deficit. what they said -- the majority, was they wanted both balance
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obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election and talk about a picture's worth 1,000 words. try a million for this one. only one word really you need which is awkward. just after this lunch took place, the president offered a tough fiscal cliff proposal to congress, one that aides to john boehner say -- wait for it -- he's already rejected. of course he has. joining me to talk about all things politics, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and ross douthat. how many seconds was it, do you think, gentlemen, let me start with you, frank, before john boehner rejected out of hand president obama's attempt to try and do a fiscal cliff deal? >> with $1.6 trillion in new taxes, i think probably half a second. >> when you see the apparent attempt at a bipartisan lunch going on today between obama and romney, it was all very sweet and everything, the reality is the picture was about as uncomfortable as the relationship is between the two sides, and again, frank, how do we get to a better place in washington? how do we get these guys to realize, let me throw thi
of the points that he was trying to make about why obama got elected. i think one thing he said that i thought was appropriately gracious is winning campaign's the good camp -- the one that ran a good campaign and that's what he's learned. one could guess, i think, that the stewart stevens op-ed will probably not come up during the lunch. these are the not guys who had a terrific history of love and affection between each other. this is be on your best behavior and don't say anything you don't want to see in print someplace in print. >> mitt romney is not a defeated republican candidate who has a big washington job, a role in the senate, or big influence over what his party does on the fiscal cliff or almost anything else. kristin, i wanted to ask you about cabinet choices because susan rice is at u.n. in her role as u.n. ambassador leading the u.s. argument on the palestinian vote on symbolic, nonmembership in the general assembly. but there were hearings again on the hill. we'll talk to joe lieberman in a moment. what is state of play whether the president is sticking with her in he did quit
.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new york times" is the latest outlet to report on senior republican leaders who are ready to strike a deal. they want to push off negotiations until the debt ceiling vote next year.ç president obama won't have it. the president is attacking the only leverage republicans have left. the president spoke to a group of ceos today and said that he will not negotiate if debt ceiling is going to be used as a hostage. >> i have to just tell you, that is a bad strategy for america, it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. so i want to send a very clear message to people here. we are not going to play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they're goin
local rcedes-benz dealer. >> i'm buyinggat 1,000%. this is the same media that got president obama elected and the same media that's now going to brow beat any business that goes against the agenda and i'm telling you right now, clarence otis, an obama backer, listen it's going to hurt us, we don't know to what degree, but the negative media darden, because we have to accommodate health care it's going to impact our bottom line. stuart: charles payne yesterday. this morning, darden has backed off, they have reversed course. they're not going to employ a lot more part-time people because of obamacare. they have backed off. liz mcdonald, did they back off because of media and public pressure? >> yes, for the most part, yes. the problem is that the media coverages, they're not reporting that darden and other restaurants like it can no longer offer the health insurance plans they were offering. they've got a lot of of turnover and half the work force quit because health reform outlaws the so-called mini-med plan. and the other issue, too, now we've got an environment where ceo's cannot
is not unprecedented. in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico he and ronald reagan never sat down for this kind of conversation. and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promis
of hirs campaign. he thinks he won it. >> president obama has been re-elected. >> to get a deal done, you're going to have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. >> the one thing the republicans have going for them is they're leaning on erskine bowles. >> i heard what you were saying. you know nothing of my work. you mean my whole fallacy is wrong. >> i'm happy to be flexible. i recognize i'm not going to get 100%. ♪ >> it certainly 'tis the season and whether you're counting the days to the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, christmas day, or judgment day, there's much to do and not much time to do it. as for us, we're counting down the minutes to house speaker john boehner who will be lighting the capitol christmas tree 234 just about an hour. if you're among the wealthiest of americans, then, boy, does boehner have a gift wrapped for you. in republicans' counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff, the rich get to keep their bush era tax cuts, even as the boehner budget slashes $1.2 trillion in spending, half of it from medicare, medicaid, and other social programs. it is a lump of coal del
the election, president barack obama and mitt romney will meet face to face. the two candidates will have lunch at the white house in a few hours. before lunch, he will meet with his former running mate congressman paul ryan. >>> if you're wondering what's on that lunch menu, how about a healthy dose of humble pie for two politicians who dished out and received some pretty good beatdowns over the last several months? joining me now, cnn political analyst, roland martin, who leans left. go ahead, lean left. >> and cnn contributor will cain. >> a circle. >> you kill me. everyone knows it's political theater. americans aren't stupid. why put us through this, will? >> i think it's symbolically healthy. first of all, president obama said he wanted to do it. fulfilling that promise has value. i think to show the american people that politics is politics and people are people and there are things we can come together over, like food. hey, by the way, roland martin and i, who agree on very little -- and i don't even really like the guy -- had breakfast yesterday together. >> really? oh, that's good to
counties to report votes on election night, too, 19,712 for obama. 19,349 for romney. >> so it overperformed -- or underperformed for the president? >> but uncanny accuracy in prediction. >> one thing i took away from the swing states versus the nonswing states which i think is something republicans ought to be aware, where the democrats can implement their get out the vote, this is, i believe -- even in losing elections they have overperformed in the swing states. bush in 2000 and 2004. >> this is proof that obama ran a better campaign in the states where the campaigns really mattered. but what's remarkable to me is that obama was able to get out his vote in such a concentration of places. democrats are really clustered at the presidential level. they can win some of the swing states by winning a very small -- >> 22% of counties total. >> the map is redder today. so if you look at that divide, we may be moving to a new normal where democrats and particularly nonwhite voters are sufficient in swing states, allow democrats to win statewide. >> and they're the presidential par
, the former companisy campaign manager of president obama's re-election campaign. howard kurtz the host of "cnn's reliable sources" lauren ashburn, republican from texas, congressman jeb hensarling with us, randy weingarten, president of the american federation of teachers. all guests this morning. wednesday, december 5th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> our "starting point" this morning, president obama putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able it to get a deal without it. >> we start this morning with white house correspondent dan lothian, he's in washington, d.c. okay. so who's got the ball in their court at this point then, dan? >> well,
programs after his election last month. >> yeah. >> stephanie: obama possesses far more leverage than he did in the budget talks with boner last year. here we go again, right. >> you act like you won or something. >> stephanie: okay. all right. rhone in chicago. >> caller: hi, stephanie. first time caller so i'm glad i get a chance to get in and talk with you. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: so many things to talk about, but i wanted to talk about the extremism that i see in the republican party. for me i'm an infantry officer, a software engineer. i have gone from voting republican and i lose myself as moderate republican, and conservative democrat somewhere in that -- >> stephanie: in the nuggety center. >> caller: yeah. the way this election has gone it has turned me very much to the left. the way the republicans have acted, they are turned me off from their party all together. >> stephanie: we welcome you into the soft cocoon of socialism. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: but the democratic party is a a very inclusive party. i don't have
is easy. >> it is hard to do and you can't do it on a partisan basis. this election did not produce a mandate for president obama or our democratic friends, we have got exactly the same thing we had before the election which is divided government. >> he has more people in congress than he had before and he did win the election and he was clear he wanted to raise taxes on the rich. >> we have got divided government, neither party could do what they want to alone, like the first two years that obama was president, we got obama care and other pieces of legislation. i think people want well thought out negotiated bipartisan solutions to the problem. you don't get that when the president has no plan to close that hole and to deal with medicare and social. and he spends his time not around the negotiating table, but rather conducting rallys outside of town. i just think he's not serious about this. >> the president has said he would support raising the age for medicare coverage for a ten-year period. >> he has said a lot of things at different times, but he has not placed those on the tab
, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's not where he used to be. he's quadrupled the amount of taxes he demands. he now has to have rates instead of just numbers. it's going to be interesting what he is doing but it appears he's not trying to come to any agreement. his position is one that the senate, the democratic senate, has rejected in the past. >> robert reish, 60% of americans according to a new abc news/"the washington post" poll believes they should raise taxes on those over $250,000 a year. presumably president obama has seen these polls. so if there is a fiscal cliff and w
is not taking a day off, period, from now until year end and haven't for weeks. ever since obama won the election, we are now in deal mode. i have to tell you, we're going to have a stellar year. it's going to be at a price. the price is going to be -- january is probably going to be much worse than predicted. february, march, et cetera. we're borrowing for the future, yet again. >> that's a really good point. is this just a short-term thing? next year in 2013, once we see cap gains taxes go much higher, which they probably will, do things slow down again? >> oh, yeah. i think it will slow down again. i think people will hunker down, particularly are the whole fiscal cliff story hanging. even if it goes over, which i predict it will -- >> so do i. >> diana, what are you seeing? >> in the high ends where dolly works, of course it's going to have a big effect. let's keep this in perspective when we look at the housing recovery. homes price ed over $1 million were just 1.7% of sales in october. this is a minuscule amount when you look at the overall housing market and the recovery. that
adelson after vowing to spend $100 million to defeat president obama. the huffington post said that he actually spent $150 million. >>> the word "election" was the number one search on yahoo! this year, but don't worry because kim kardashian was still the most searched person, just in case you were. >>> and president obama and former president clinton were part of a golfing foursome sunday but no cameras were allowed. these pictures are from when they played last year. it's believed to be the president's third time hitting the links since the election. >>> finally, birther tate tried to force occidental college to release president obama's student records. the judge said no, told her, quote, evidence is not stuff printed from the internet and ordered her to pay the college $4,000 for its trouble. >>> and that is your morning dish of "scrambled politics." >>> and now for a check on wall street this monday morning. the dow opens this week at 13,025 after gaining 3 points friday. the s&p was up a fraction. the nasdaq lost 1. overseas, the nikkei added 12, and the hang seng dropped 262. >>
, no? >> i think right after the election that was the message that even president obama and john boehner and the entire leadership, we saw that incredible image of the minority and majority leaders on both houses come out saying things that sounded like they were going to cooperate. but, you know, only in washington can that mean nothing quickly. but i do think, look, let's put this in perspective. we have a game of chicken going on here with a lot of posturing. there's 30 days to get this done, which for washington time it's like dog years. it's an eternity. one day counts for seven. when they want to get something done, they can get it done. but i think right now you're seeing a lot of public posturing to get the best offer possibly out of the other side. >> l.z.? >> you know, i spent the past couple days out in long beach at the victory fund initiative for lbjt leaders and talked to a lot of members who work in congress as well other congressional aides and ana is right, it's a lot of posturing and a lot of time. to the rest of us american people when we hear, oh, 30 days lef
election. and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider historically, everybody else's vision is getting narrower to that -- not even to election day in '14, but of the primary day. >> so with all that said, leigh, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big, not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy, but he wants stimulus spending. he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground when you look at this? who blinks on these questions of taxes? >> well, i mean, everyone's doubling down and waiting for the other side to blink first. and that's why we're going to push this to the end. i think michael makes a good point. we don't know what's happening. this could be all choreographed. we don't know what's happening with the side conversations. both sides will probably give. i mean, i think everyone knows that's going to be the case. but, you know, the president has a lot of leverage. he, of course, doesn't have absolute leverage, but he has more than he had. we learned a lesson in 2001 with the debt ceiling negot
, they insisted the election return obama to the white house and the gop return to the house requires both parties to come together in a fairground. but we know that didn't happen. i think everybody is aware, right, that it is the gerrymandering that has returned -- what they are calling middle ground is not middle ground, right? >> it isn't middle ground and there wasn't a dead locked election. they forget a couple of things number 1 that there was an election, and the people spoke and number two if you look at every survey -- i guess the second point is in this campaign there was a clear, clear outline by the president of where he stood, no secret. there had to be a continuation of the middle class tax cut, and an end of the tax cut for the very wealthy in -- in 2010 they got over 90%, the upper 1% -- 90% over that of the income growth, and the third point, the surveys show after the election all of them -- that if you ask people should there be continuation of the middle class tax cuts? yes. should there be a continuation of the tax cuts for the very wealthy? no.
. >> magic beans and fairy dust. >> president obama did win the election. >> me thinks somebody made him king. >> no. i don't think that's right. >> he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> are we that far apart? >> both sides want a deal. >> a matter of math. >> try to stay away from hypotheticals. >> it won't pass. >> discussions abo u >> unicorns. >> they're imaginary beasts. >> magic beans. >> magic math. >> an enchanted universe. >> outrageous. >> the whole thing is going wacky. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> i don't envy the position the speaker is in. >> we're nowhere. you just might feel under attack. >> john boehner's power move. >> roll over and do what i ask. >> having the reins on the tea party. >> does he have real allies at this point? >> conservative groups lashed out. >> tea party, too, will dwarf tea party one. >> you cannot be serious. >> john boehner's power move. >> roll over and do what i ask. >>> there are just 27 shopping days until we go off the curb which means there are just 27 days for john bainer to make house republicans c
't need to give that much if there is a deal. that democrats they won the election, president obama campaigned on many things that he's pushing. one, do you agree? number two, what role, if that is the role of house democrats what role can house democrats play in influencing that process since this is being cast as president obama and john bain somewhere nobody else. >> the role that the house democrats have played all along that is we continue to put forward an agenda that is acceptable to all sides. as i mentioned, jobs, first and foremost. back home, chris, they're not talking about sequestration. they're saying, look, why can't you guys get together and create the jobs that we need? only within the beltway do we become obsessed with this thing. they expect as adults we'll sit down and work this through. i believe that will happen. i believe the democrats, especially the house, have to remain crystal clear on what we're for. for the creation of jobs, for tax cuts for the middle class. these are something that both sides can agree to. and, yes, we have to address the long-term con
it and the president has answered the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of agreement. >> let's put aside the right wing here. we know that speaker boehner purged some of those seen as not being team players within his own party and we'll discuss the fact he's taken a hit for that. beyond the right wing or whatever you have numbers. you have exit polling. you have pew research poll that shows where the american people stand. if all of the people are there to represent us, meaning the people who are watching right now and the panel included here, we are all americans, we pay taxes, then why isn't this work getting done? >> well, just look at speaker boehner
election running on the idea that you were going to treat government differently. president obama claims that he won his election because he came up with this idea of saying that they were going to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2% and keep rates where they are for the middle-class. >> i think president obama can certainly say that he has got a different outlook on what america should look like, what america's role in the world should be, and a different outlook about the economic future of america. i think he truly believes his ideas. i don't think he's right in those beliefs and those outlooks because i think the human nature is to be free. the human instinct is to be free. free from overtaxation, free from overregulation, free from overlitigation. and until we free up the entrepreneurs in this country, we are going to struggle economically as a nation. there will be pockets around the country where freedom still matters, where -- there is still a land of opportunity in america. it's called texas. >> anyway, they'll be more than -- we don't want you to secede now. how about five sta
that the elections are over, it is time for president obama and the white house to get alan home. no matter how they have to do it, no matter who they have to do it with, it could take several -- not to give up. they have to find the right people to get together and negotiate. what they negotiate, it's fine with me. they just need to bring alan home and we're really advocating strongly president obama get himself involved in this to get him home. >> judy gross, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> and who's going to blink first in the fiscal cliff negotiations? our friday political package up next. first, the first dog is getting into the holiday spirit. the white house released video of bo making an inspection of this year's holiday decoration while the toy rep ply caf -- replica of boy stopped him in his tracks. ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like everyone is going to break into a karaoke jam session. ♪ this will literally probably never happen. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make chan
at the results of the survey, 20% of americans say the message of the election was that republicans need to compromise with the president. 9% said that the message was that president obama needs to compromise and the plurality, 44% said both ought to compromise. those results aren't so surprising because president obama won the election but if you look at the number who would be to blame if we don't get a deal, you see 21% blame the president and democrats in congress, 23% blame republicans, pretty even, 52% says they blame both of them. some other surveys have shown president obama with a stronger hand. we looked democrats in congress together with the president, any time you lump congress in a question it drags down the number. finally if you look at the intense partisan split on outlooks for the economy, this is something that is relevant as we try to measure the pessimism or optimism of american voters, we see now an even split among those who say the economy will get better in the next year versus those who say it will get worse but there's a tremendous partisan split there. republi
, that fanned the flames of the post-obama tea party protest. but, of course, most of the actual republicans who were actually elected back then were elected because they ran ads like this. >> congressman brad ellsworth said he would protect our seniors. but when he got to washington, congressman ellsworth voted for the largest cuts in medicare history, over $500 billion. robin carnahan supports $500 billion in medicare cuts, ç hurting seniors most. rand paul doesn't support higher medicare deductibles for seniors. conway distracts with negative ads to hide his support for obama care, which cuts medicare by $500 billion. >> that was 2010. fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the hatchet to medicare. >> the biggest, coldest power play of all in obama care came at the expense of the elderly. $716 billion, funneled out of medicare by president obama >> my plan's already extended medicare by nearly a decade. their plan ends medicare as we know it. >> on medicare, for current retirees, he's
so much. and good luck with it. i hope it sells. >> cheers. >>> all right. president obama is speaking out about the fiscal cliff in his first television interview since the election. he spoke with bloomberg's white house correspondent yesterday and the white house just aired on bloomberg television minutes ago. here's some of what the president had to say about the republican proposal to close tax loopholes without raising taxes on the country's top 2%. >> it's not me being stubborn. it's not me being partisan. it's a matter of math. you know, there's a lot of talk that somehow we can raise $800 billion or a trillion worth of revenue by closing loop hopes and destructions. but a lot of your viewers understand that the only way to do that if you completely eliminated, for example, charitable deductions. well, if you eliminate charitable deductions that means every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would suddenly find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> that aired a few minutes ago. we'll have a lot more
and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers up $800 billion in new taxes without upping tax rates at all tea party leaders say higher taxes shouldn't be in any form because it is not what republicans stand for. south carolina senator jim demint went so far as to call on supporters of his senate conservative fund to call senate republicans and ask them to oppose what he's calling the boehner tax hike. the looming question for re
to play down the fact that president obama and others got a significant boost from voters. in politics there is the temptation from those who win office to think that they have a mandate to do what they will. they re-elected the house republicans. so whether people intended or not, we have divided government. >> the american people made clear that there is no mandate for raising tax rates. >> keeping them honest. president obama campaigned and won. so his victory throws cold water on that claim. democrats gained seats in the senate and on the house. more than two in three people support tax hikes for the wealthy. it is something that republicans will be grapling with from now until new year's day. >> thank you. >> your proposal that republican lawmakers should agree with democrats should extend tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less later that is an idea that a lot of republicans are reki resisting. what kind of push back are you getting? >> i think some have more questions about it. i don't believe in raising tax rates on anybody. by slowing down growth cuts revenue. i think the p
is right or wrong, obama has just won the election on that basic pledge to raise taxes. >> wrong, wrong, wrong! you know what, that makes no sense. how many people do you know that said i'm going to vote for the president to have more debt, and in an economy that can't grow it's way out of the issues? we currently only take in about 15.5% revenues. we need to get to 2021. >> i understand that. >> it's not a tax problem, it's a growth problem. and he has no growth plan. so then they blame others, because they don't have a plan. >> but he was able to get through the election doing precisely that. >> got through the election on social issues. on the economy, i think it's pretty clear that nobody voted for four more years of the current economy. four more years to get his house in order and he's not going to get his house in order using the red herring of taxes when it's entitlemen entitlements. it just isn't going to work, simon. >> i get it. i'm just pointing out -- >> you know what, let's take jobless claims. >> i get it. >> over the last three days, jobless claims to sustain that renewa
election is any indication, president obama is dead on right. he was -- he and his team were masters at social media in getting elected. and using social media to spread his message in nontraditional ways, ways that will be traditional in every election going forward. so, he knows what he's doing. and, by the way, i think his particular message this time looks like it's achieving success, carol. 65% of americans are very comfortable with raising taxes on the top 2%. so he knows what he wants and he's got people behind him. >> so why aren't republicans bending? eric cantore came out yesterday and said president obama was obsessd with higher taxes and his obsession would have to go away before any deal is made. if the majority of americans feel comfortable with raising taxes on the wealthiest americans, don't republicans have to bend? >> well, look, first, i think eric cantore is right. i am taken aback at how dedicated president obama is about raising taxes on just 2% of our population, showing amazing amount of resolve to raise taxes on a group of people that won't make a significant
obama may have won this election but would years ago, leaders of the tea party movement elected ron paul's son, rand, as kentucky senator over an establishment republican. one leader of that movement who runs a high-end audio equipment business says they could do the same thing in 2014 and this time take out mitch mcconnell if he agrees to raise taxes. >> we should not raise taxes in this country. we do not have a receive knew problem. i would like senator mcconnell to recognize that the washington leaders are like a bunch of crack addicts. they immediate ever more money forever more growing government and it is at the expense of the ordinary citizens that they pursue these policies. >> but the brighter those lines are drawn, the harder it will be to get a deal. william worked more than 20 years on wall street. now he runs a small college here and sits on the board of the henry clay center for statesmanship. the way to a solution, he says, is for both sides to have a voice. >> both have taken the -- attitude that it is my way or the highway. and americans recognize that that's just not t
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? we've just had an election. the people had a choice between mitt romney and president obama who said let's have a balanced plan, and let's give tax cuts to the middle class. what is he talking about? this is about tax cuts. the president is saying, renew the payroll tax cut. give tax cuts to every dollar earned up to $250,000. i don't know what they're thinking, thomas. but obviously, they are putting it all on the line for the koch brothers and sheldon adelson who earn billions of dollars. they're selfish. and there's a group called patriotic millionaires who are saying please, please, tax us fairly. and here's the point. the president is saying to the millionaires and billionaires, we're just taking you back to the tax rates that you had when bill clinton was president. and i would like to remind everybody, we had the greatest prosperity then when everyone paid their fair share. 23 million new jobs. and why is it? because the middle class had the money to spend out there, to stimulate this economy. it's a consumer-driven economy. about 70% of the economy is consumer driven. and the
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line and doesn't appear to be willing to bend on that and just had an election where the american people used a federalized voice to send a mandate that they wanted the leadership president obama would commdemonstrate in second term because he ran on the issue, isn't it something speaker bainer can get through, get enough republicans to stomach this and avoid pushing everyone to the cliff, all the drama that surrounds this? >> speaker boehner is obviously in a tough position and trying to provide leadership in a sensitive and difficult time in the party's history, and there was surely, i surely agree with you, thomas, that the president was reelected, but also re-election happened for the republican majority in the house of representatives, and there's a world view out there in terms of what the president believes that says that we need more spending, we are are government is the solution but i also remind you there's a world view that says we don't have a revenue problem. we have a spending problem, and that we should bring spending under control, obviously when you send proposal
the election, romney's stayed mostly out of the spotlight and pretty quiet. he and paul ryan met with president obama in washington last week. >>> witnesses say it was terrifying, a crushing tunnel collapse about 50 miles west of tokyo. authorities have recovered nine bodies, most of them from burned vehicles. experts say aging parts in the tunnel could be to blame. the disaster has prompted japanese officials to order emergency inspections of dudsens of other tunnels with similar designs across the country. >>> and here's a sign of the times. the pope is on twitter. the vatican today revealed pope benedict's personal handle is @pontifacts. the vatican said the pope believes the catholic church must be present in the digital arena. that's going to be hard to answer a question about faith in 140 characters. >> he'll probably have 1 million followers in two hours. >> he has more than 230,000 followers and he hasn't even had a single tweet. his name means bridge builder in latin. another name for the pope. >> yeah. i'll follow him. >> i will as well. >> are thank you very much. maybe if i follow h
's just been re-elected, he's the winner. the republicans were vanquished and i suspect president obama says i'll be calling the shots here. >> there is still a month left. we've got to have something to talk about for the rest of the month, right? you have to kind of look at this as sort of a poker game. everybody's going to sort of try to barter for as best a deal as they can get and know they are going to have to make concessions along the way. what he did is he went for it. he said look, i'm going to do $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, only $400 billion in cuts. he conveniently did not cut social security, medicare and medicaid which poll as the most popular programs and things that americans actually want. and if you look at it, 60% of americans actually support the idea of raising taxes and that of course goes beyond those that just voted for him. so he's going with what are the popular issues that i know i can get americans around me and i'm going to put republicans in a really tight spot where they're going to have to either say look, we're going to make cuts to programs that we know
including that one. >> mr. speaker, before the election you were asked whether if obama won, taxes would have to go up. you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you've -- you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what -- what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that it's -- or believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise like the actual rates? >> revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize, it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speaker, roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, and do you think that at least the promise of sp
. >> among our guests this morning, we have ron johnson. at the white house today, president obama will host mitt romney for a private lunch. it's their first meeting since the election. and this his victory speech, obama promised to engage with romney and consider his ideas. >> a lot of people didn't think the lunch would ever happen. >> interesting if he's going to be talking about ideas, mitt romney's idea had been to reach some sort of a cap on it 00 mem deductions. >> he would have just extended the bush tax cuts and then the other stuff would have been -- but if romney had been elected, whether bad long term to extend them, that's one thing, but he would have extended -- this is a weird argument to be having to have everything hinging on on the 2% that are -- suddenly as i've said before, suddenly everybody loves the bush tax cuts. so weird. >> flips the tables on who likes what. >> it all goes back to the line in the band. obama first time around caved and his base never for gave him for extending the bush tax cuts when he said he wouldn't. >> maybe the republicans should be reconside
of republicans saying none of this would have happened if barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from arurubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including
badly in the election, nobody wants to be seen playing footsie with barack obama under the table which is what they're going to have to do to get this deal done. the republican party is going tond up being blamed which is one of the reasons they will have to compromise more. it's the same thing the democrats did when bush won. you have to compromise with the party that just won. jason johnson, john brabender, thank you thank you both. >>> the new york film critics have made their choices for top films and many times they end up as oscar favorites. all the details next. all the details next. we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of tim and laura. it's amazing how appreciative ople are when you tell them they could save a lot of money on their car insurance by switching to geico...they may even make you their best man. may i have the rings please? ah, helzberg diamonds. nice choice, mate. ...and now in the presence of these guests we join this loving couple. oh dear... geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. i've been fortunate to win on golf's biggest
president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs to be done. they know you have to fix entitlements, do something on the tax side, but they're trying to figure out how to get from here to there. >> and let's just stop there, because let's say the white hous
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